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                                   Opening The Heart Of Western Medicine

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November 2014

November 6, 2014

"One Washcloth: Sudden, Unexpected Death in the ER"

Rochelle Martin, RN

Join Dr. Karen Wyatt and her guest Rochelle Martin RN, death midwife and emergency room nurse. Rochelle and Dr. Wyatt will discuss the One Washcloth Initiative, which Rochelle co-founded to offer compassion and support to families who have suffered an unexpected loss of a loved one in the emergency room. They will talk about the challenges for both staff and family members of coping with death in the ER setting.

In this interview you will learn:

how the One Washcloth Initiative hopes to help families say goodbye to loved ones who have died in healthcare settings

about the challenges facing ER staff as they deal with traumatic deaths

what changes are needed in the medical system to improve the care offered to dying patients and their families in the ER and hospital

Rochelle Martin is a Registered Nurse with specialty certification in Psychiatric and Mental Health Nursing. She holds a Master of Divinity degree from the University of Toronto, and has experience in emergency and acute psychiatry, palliative care, and spiritual care.

Recently certified as an End-of-Life and Home Funeral-Care Guide (Beyond Hospice, 2012), most of the families Rochelle supports are saying goodbye to loved ones immediately following unexpected, often traumatic deaths in ER. She considers it a great privilege to be with families in these raw, intense moments, when there is little to offer but compassionate presence.

Currently collaborating on a number of death midwifery-related projects, Rochelle is working to establish a Canadian national community of practice, has co-founded the One Washcloth initiative, and serves on the Education Committee of the National Home Funeral Alliance. Her local efforts include leading after-death care workshops for healthcare, religious, and community groups, and exploring a conservation burial partnership in Hamilton, Ontario. Rochelle was born in Indiana, grew up in Chicago, and now lives in downtown Hamilton with her partner Ron and three children.

Rochelle Martin, RN, BScN, MDiv, CPMHN(C)

FuneralAlternatives Website:



Email: [email protected]

Phone: 905-746-3074 

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October 2014

October 23, 2014

10 am Pacific/1 pm Eastern

"Not Here by Choice"

Phyllis Shacter

Join Dr. Karen Wyatt and her guest Phyllis Shacter, an advocate for natural dying through voluntary stopping of eating and drinking (VSED.) Phyllis will discuss the story of her husband Alan who made the choice to stop eating and drinking rather than progress into the later stages of Alzheimer's disease. In this interview you will learn:

  • factors that must be considered before making a decision for VSED as a means of dying with dignity
  • the role a caregiver must play in this type of decision
  • a personal perspective on the process of dying when a choice for VSED has been made

Phyllis Shacter is an advocate for broadening the perspective about the choices available to people leading up to and during the dying process. Phyllis grew into this role through years of a long journey with her beloved husband Alan whose health declined slowly but steadily in the last six years of his life. Alan died in April 2013 when he decided to voluntarily stop eating and drinking (VSED) so he did not have to live into the late stages of Alzheimer's. Phyllis draws on her experience as a consultant and public speaker as a means to spread this very important, but not widely known, message.

For more insight into what led up to Alan's decision to VSED, you can also watch Phyllis' TEDxBellingham talk which she gave in November 2013, called "Not Here By Choice." The link is:

or you can Google "Phyllis Shacter "Not Here By Choice."

To contact Phyllis Shacter, go to On the right side bar, click on "Contact." You can leave her an email there.

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October 9, 2014

10 am Pacific/1 pm Eastern

"The Shared Crossing Project"

William Peters, MFT, MEd

Join Dr. Karen Wyatt and her guest William Peters, the founder of the Shared Crossing Project. Wiliam will discuss his research on methods to facilitate the shared death experience and assist families and loved ones through the end-of-life process. You will learn:

  • how the Shared Crossing Project is attempting to facilitate shared death experiences for patients and their loved ones

  • how shared death experiences can lessen grief
  • how to help patients understand their deathbed experiences, such as visions and visitations 

The Shared Crossing Project was founded by William Peters, MFT, M.Ed., a marriage and family therapist at the Family Therapy Institute of Santa Barbara. William specializes in end-of-life and afterlife phenomena. He has had two Near Death Experiences and various Shared Death Experiences.

He lived and trained with John of God in Brazil for two years and served as a hospice volunteer with the Zen Hospice Project at Laguna Honda Hospital in San Francisco. William worked as a teacher and social worker in Belize, Guatemala, and Peru.

William holds a Masters of Education in Group Dynamics from the Harvard Graduate School of Education, a Master of Arts in Integral Counseling Psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies, and a Bachelor of Arts in Political Economy of Industrial Societies from the University of California, Berkeley, CA. William is a Brian Weiss certified past life regression therapist.


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September 2014

September 25, 2014

10 am Pacific/1 pm Eastern

"Nature-Based Rituals for

Living and Dying"

Sarah Kerr

Join Dr. Karen Wyatt and her guest Sarah Kerr, a Death Midwife and Ceremonialist who helps individuals, families and communities find spiritual practice and ceremonies that honor the soul as we move through life transitions. Sarah will discuss her work designing and facilitating rituals to help heal grief and loss. In this interview you will learn:

  • the role of rituals at the end-of-life

  • how art can help heal grief
  • tips for creating meaningful rituals to commemorate life's transitions

Sarah Kerr is a Death Midwife and Ceremonialist in Calgary, Canada.

Using principles of nature-based spirituality, Sarah supports her clients and their families on the journey of illness, death or loss. With ritual, Sarah helps people connect - to the wisdom of their own souls, to their community, and to that which they hold sacred- and to draw support from these larger powers


Meaningful ritual provides medicine for our souls, andSarah facilitates rituals around endings and death that honour the spiritual significance of the process, and bring healing to both the living and the dead.

Sarah has a Masters Degree in Environmental Philosophy, a Masters Certificate in Intuition Medicine, and a PhD in Transformative Learning. She has also been a long-time student of Paganism and cross-cultural shamanism, and has studied with many indigenous and western teachers.

Sarah has been a community organizer, a group facilitator and trainer, and a curriculum designer, as well as leading extended wilderness expeditions in Alaska and the Canadian Arctic. She is a visual artist, and integrates her painting and mixed media sculptures into her healing work.

Sarah works with clients in person, and by phone and Skype.


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September 11, 2014

10 am Pacific/1 pm Eastern

"Alzheimer's Caregivers:

The Unsung Heroes"

Judith London, PhD

Join Dr. Wyatt and her special guest, psychologist Dr. Judith London who is the author of two books on Alzheimer's Disease. She will discuss her experiences working with Alzheimer's patients and their caregivers over the past 20 years and offer her insights into the special challenges created by this devastating disease. Dr. London will also share some of the stories from her books. In this interview you will learn:

  • why Dr. London was inspired to work with and write about Alzheimer's patients
  • what are the major challenges faced by caregivers for Alzheimer's patients
  • tips for caregivers in relating to their loved ones with Alzheimer's
  • how hospice and palliative care workers can be more supportive of family caregivers

Dr. Judith London is a licensed psychologist with more than 20 years of experience working with people dealing with dementia. After writing her first book, Connecting the Dots: Breakthroughs in Communication as Alzheimer’s Advances, she has written the book, Support for Alzheimer's and Dementia Caregivers: The Unsung Heroes for relatives, friends and professionals to offer comfort and sustenance throughout the long journey of Alzheimer’s. Dr. London has been an Adjunct Professor at New York University, Trainer and Workshop Leader in the areas of dementia and communication, caregiver stress management, and brain health. Featured in newspapapers and television, Dr. London is the Alzheimer’s expert of the WebMd Alzheimer’s Community, and


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August 2014

August 28, 2014

10 am Pacific/1 pm Eastern

"Art and the End-of-Life"

Irina Jordan

Founder of Artisurn

Join Dr. Karen Wyatt and her guest Irina Jordan, Founder and Owner of ARTISURN, an online marketplace for handcrafted cremation urns, jewelry and keepsakes made by talented artisans. We will discuss the role of the creative arts in remembering our loved ones or beloved pets at the end-of-life and in healing grief. According to Irina Jordan, ARTISURN craftsmen are sensitive to the deep emotional component required in creating sacred objects and we will learn how they do this work. In this interview you will discover:

  • how cremation urns are created and measured
  • why a handmade cremation urn is preferred
  • how cremation jewelry is made, using ashes fused with glass
  • stories of grief healing through sacred art

Irina Jordan is a Founder and Owner of ARTISURN (, online marketplace of handcrafted cremation urns, jewelry and keepsakes made by talented artisans. ARTISURN's name is a combination of 'artisan' and 'urn' to highlight the one-of-a-kind quality of its cremation urns, jewelry and keepsakes.

Irina has founded it on the premise that everyone deserves a lovingly handmade final resting vessel. People can celebrate the life of a loved one or beloved pet by finding a unique cremation piece that they can proudly display in their homes or wear close to their heart. is the only site that offers only handcrafted cremation pieces.

Irina is well-versed in social media so you can find ARTISURN on Facebook, Google+, Instagram, Pinterest and Twitter in addition to its own website: and Memorial Chronicles blog: ARTISURN has been featured in Huffington Post , Chicago Tribune, Crain's Chicago Business, CIO and on a variety of sites and blogs devoted to caregiving and end of life topics.

Prior to ARTISURN, Irina ran a non-profit think tank dedicated to research of how to ensure trustworthiness of public information. She also owned a successful home care agency. Irina holds MBA and Masters in Education.


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August 14, 2014

10 am Pacific/1 pm Eastern

"A Will for the Woods"

Amy Browne and Brian Wilson

Join Dr. Karen Wyatt and her guests, filmmakers Amy Browne and Brian Wilson as they discuss their award-winning film, A Will for the Woods, the story of a man near the end of his life who prepares for his own green burial. This film has been named "One of the 9 documentaries you must see this year" by the TED blog and has won numerous awards at film festivals around the country. In this interview you will learn:

  • what inspired 4 young filmmakers to spend 4 years filming this end-of-life journey
  • what the movie teaches us about death and burial customs
  • how this film can change the funeral industry
  • how to plan your own green burial and create a "green will"

Co-Director/Producer, Amy Browne, grew up in Australia and moved to New York City to study theater at The American Academy of Dramatic Arts, and film at The New School University. Her film credits include Associate Producer for Crazy & Thief (LA Film Festival 2012) and I Used to be Darker (Sundance 2013), as well as work on The Ballad of Genesis and Lady Jaye (Berlinale & Tribeca 2011). She also recently commenced work as the Producer on upcoming documentary As Worlds Divide. When her sister Sophie introduced her to the concept of green burial, which connects the profundity and beauty of nature with the cycle of death and life, Amy was inspired to further explore the idea through film.

Co-director/Editor, Brian Wilson, graduated from Brown University with a degree in Comparative Literature and History, and works as an editor in New York. Passionate about the natural world and its protection and restoration, he is pleased to be exploring and raising awareness about green burial with A Will for the Woods. He became interested in developing deeper insight into death after his mother died in 2008, and has been grateful to find it through working on this project, which he hopes will offer similar comfort and understanding to many viewers.


 Sign up here for the mailing list for A Will for the Woods!

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July 2014

July 24, 2014

10 am Pacific/1 pm Eastern

"Bedside Singing and the End-of-Life"

Pashta MaryMoon

Join Dr. Karen Wyatt and her guest Pashta MaryMoon, the co-founder and director of CINDEA (Canadian Integrative Network for Death Education and Alternatives) and also the creator of En-chanting Beyond, which offers support for dying people, birthing mothers and patients with dementia through the use of bedside singing.

In this interview you will learn:

  • what "bedside singing" is and how it can be used for patients in the dying process
  • how patients benefit from bedside singing
  • about the Post-Death Care at Home Video Series that can be used to help educate home caregivers
  • what the "pan-death continuum" means and why it is important

Pashta MaryMoon — a mother and grandmother in Victoria, B.C. Canada — spent her youth as a social activist and non-violence trainer, and teaching music in elementary schools. Later, she obtained a Honours degree in World Religions, followed by a lay seminary degree — which included writing several essays on death practices in our modern culture.

Pashta has training in sexual abuse and general counselling. In the 1960s, she has worked people living with HIV/AIDS — caretaking for those dying from this disease, as well as officiating at their requiems or memorials. During the same time period, she was birth-coach for 3 single mothers – including one of whose fetus who had died in utero.

Pashta's background is primrily in pastoral care in chaplaincies — as visiting clergy for hospital/hospice (10 yrs) and federal prison (20 yrs), and part of the pastoral/spiritual care team at the Royal Jubilee Hospital (Victoria). As a member of the Quaker Vancouver Island Monthly Meeting for 40 years, she has served as the clerk of the Memorial committee, Ministry & Council committee, and the Pastoral Care Committee.

As a singer/songwriter, she has long used vocal music as an alternate therapy to support the dying or grieving process. She was one of the co-founders of the Victoria Hospice Bedside Singers (originally called Songs of Passage), and then created En-chanting Beyond to support dying people, birthing mothers and people with dementia. Pashta graduated from The Justice Institute as a mediator in 2011, and offers a specific focus in EOL (end-of-life) issues through E~merging Beyond.

After several years researching Advance Directives and Representation Agreements throughout North America, she has developed comprehensive, values-based Advance Directives and Representation Agreements templates. She has studied with Life and Death Matters (psychosocial side of palliative care), and participates in a number of organizations that are addressing EOL/pan-death issues — including Victoria Elder Friendly Community Network, Canada’s Dying with Dignity and the international End of Life Professionals Collective.

Pashta has also studied Family-led At-home (home funerals) with Final Passages, and has over 30 years of experience with developing and leading personalized ceremonies for a variety of different rites of passage. Eventually, she became a Death Midwife with Journeying Beyond; and the co-founder/director of CINDEA.

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Thursday July 10, 2014

10 am Pacific/1 pm Eastern

"Positive Passings"

Suzanne B. O'Brien, RN

Join Dr. Wyatt and her guest Suzanne O'Brien, hospice nurse, to discuss Suzanne's work in helping families plan for end-of-life care and death with clarity and dignity. Suzanne has created Positive Passings, a community based organization dedicated to providing education and support to families as they make plans for end-of-life care. She also provides the End of Life Doula Program to train community volunteers to be a resource at the end-of-life.

In this interview you will learn:

  • how we can help alleviate the future family caregiver shortage that has been predicted for the US

  • what can be learned from a hospice program in the developing nation of Zimbabwe?
  • what do non-medical caregivers most need to know in order to provide care for their loved ones at home?

Suzanne B. O'Brien is an end of life educator, consultatn and author of Life, Love and Transition: Guidance for the End of Life (2012)--a guide to achieving a dignified, meaningful death through the hospice experience. Suzanne resides in New York's Hudson Valley, where she has been a registered nurse and hospice nurse for over 15 years.

Suzanne uses her medical training and natural gift of empathy to help her patients and families make the transition from life to death through the final months, week, or days, making sure their physical, emotional and spiritual needs are being met.

The lessons Suzanne has learned at he bedsides of dying patients have taught her that our duty to the dying is to care for them holistically at the end of life. They must fel comfortable, pain-free, and dignified. Having an honest conversation about death with the dying person and their family is integral to her phiosophy.

Suzanne's training in spirituall, alternative and medical healing led her to her curent role as hospice nurse and advocate. In addition to her training as a registered nurse, acute oncology nurse and hospice nurse she has received:

  • Degree in Transpersonal Counseling and Spiritual Ministry at the Association for the Integrations of the Whole Person in Los Alamitos, CA
  • Certification as a Reiki Practitiioner: Omega Institute in Rhinebeck, NY


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June 2014

Thursday June 26, 2014

10 am Pacific/1 pm Eastern

"The Death Monologues"

Giselle Suarez

Join Dr. Karen Wyatt and her special guest, actress Giselle Suarez, for a conversation about THE DEATH MONOLOGUES, a unique theatrical experience that dives into life's greatest taboo. The Master of Ceremonies in this play is Death, who takes the audience through monologues with five different characters that shed light on the subject of death.

You will learn about this unique initiative to open up the conversation on death and dying:

  • how the arts can impact society's atttudes toward death and dying

  • why an actress is motivated to present such a unique performance
  • how to support the arts as a medium for opening hearts and minds to the subject of dying

Giselle Suarez, a Cuban-American by birth, was led to the Netherlands in 1995, where she pursued her lifelong dream of acting and performing. She graduated from the Royal Theatre Arts Academy in Utrecht NL, and spent over a decade playing, directing and teaching in the European professional theatre circuit, including the Dutch National Theatre, the Hague, The Rotterdam Schouwburg, De Balie & Gasthuis, Amsterdam, KVS/Bottelarij, Brussels, NEXT International Arts Festival, Kortrijk, The Schauspielhaus,Vienna, Theatre Intensive, Dartington and a site specific performance in Marseille with Jean-Michel Bruyere. Together with her husband Jorrit she formed MOMENTA, a non-profit organization based in the Netherlands, which completed several theatre projects, including staging the poetry of K'iche' poet, Humberto Ak'abal, and a modern staging of the RABINAL ACHI, in Central America, both productions working with the young Mayan population.

Giselle returned to the United States in 2009 to be with her mother who had been diagnosed with a brain tumor and spent 9 months assisting her on her death journey. This experience changed her life drastically and she became fascinated by the 'miracle' of death. After the death of her mother, Betty, she became very involved with death, working with and assisting others in many different ways such as hospice work, end of life and grief counseling, ceremony and of course, the creation of The Death Monologues, a life's work. It has become one of her passions to help shift the consciousness of death in our culture. And this is what inspired the creation of THE DEATH MONOLOGUES, which unites her two arbitrary passions, death and theater.


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Thursday June 12, 2014

10 am Pacific/1 pm Eastern

"Shrouds and Green Burial"

Esmerelda Kent

Kinkaraco - Green Burial Products

Join Dr. Karen Wyatt and her guest Esmerelda Kent, owner and founder of Kinkaraco - Green Burial Products for this fascinating discussion about shrouds. Esmerelda designed and created the first secular shroud specifically for green burial back in 2005 and that prototype shroud was featured in the final episode of the popular HBO series "Six Feet Under." She will tell us what inspired her work and share her knowledge about the use of shrouds in all types of after-death disposition.

You will learn:

  • the history of shrouds in various cultures
  • when and why to use a shroud
  • how to properly prepare a body after death

Esmerelda Kent began working in California’s first GREEN cemetery, Fernwood, in 2004, after a lifetime in show business as a singer and costume designer. As a result of the death of her parents, her Buddhist practice, the AIDS epidemic and most importantly the influence of the TV show “SIX FEET UNDER” she changed her career to be of service to people and pioneered some of the very first green funeral services in the USA while working at Fernwood.

In 2005 she designed and created a secular burial shroud in order to meet the needs of families desiring green burial. The first prototype of this shroud was purchased by and debuted in the same popular HBO series that had already been an influence on Esmerelda’s career path, “Six Feet Under.” In that same year she launched her company Kinkaraco –Green Burial Products and began selling shrouds directly to the public online while she continued working at FERNWOOD conducting green burials.

Esmerelda Kent has been featured in BusinessWeek Magazine, she was awarded the EILEEN FISHER BUSINESS GRANT for Women Business Owners in Sustainable Business, and she has been a speaker for the ICCFA International Cemetery, Cremation and Funeral Association annual conventions on several occasions.

She has also started “21st Century Deathcare ™” a national & international referral service for customers seeking green services in 35 US States in hundreds of family owned funeral homes as well as in Canada and Australia. Esmerelda is the mother of two adult children and she lives in San Francisco, California.


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May 2014

May 29, 2014

10 am Pacific/1 pm Eastern

BONUS Call: "Highlights from EOLU"

Karen Wyatt, MD

Host of End-of-Life University

Join the host of End-of-Life University, Dr. Karen Wyatt, for this look back at the highlights from the past 7 months of interviews in this series. You will learn what went on "behind the scenes" as this series was being created and understand Dr. Wyatt's goals and intentions for these interviews. She will share her own favorite learning experiences from the series AND answer your questions and hear your comments!

You will be able to ask questions during the LIVE call or you can submit your questions in writing in advance (you will receive instructions for doing this in an email.)

Join the conversation and tune in for this LIVE call with Dr. Wyatt!

Dr. Karen Wyatt is a family practice physician who spent most of her 25-year career in medicine caring for patients in challenging settings such as nursing homes, hospices, free clinics and homeless shelters. Her work with patients who were facing the end of life inspired her to write the book “What Really Matters: 7 Lessons for Living from the Stories of the Dying,” which describes the spiritual lessons she learned from her hospice patients. Dr. Wyatt also hosts an online interview series entitled End-of-Life University, which features interviews and conversations about all aspects of the end-of-life. She has won numerous awards for her volunteer service including the Spirit of the American Woman Award and being named one of Utah’s 100 Notable Women. She has been featured in USA Today, Publisher’s Weekly, Huffington Post, Shift Magazine, Light of Consciousness Journal, the Denver Post and numerous medical journals. Dr. Wyatt teaches that in order to live life fully we must each overcome our fear of death and embrace the difficulties that life brings us. She is an inspired teacher who truly embodies the message she brings to the world.


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May 22, 2014

10 am Pacific/ 1 pm Eastern

"Shared Death Experience"

Lizzy Miles, MSW, LSW

Lizzy Miles is a hospice social worker who brought the first Death Cafe to the U.S. in 2012! In this interview we will discuss her experience with the Death Cafe movement and then dive into her unique history with an SDE - Shared Death Experience. While her aunt was dying of Alzheimer's Disease Lizzy went through a 10-day SDE and she will recount that event for us. You will learn:

  • the definition of an SDE
  • how SDE's differ from NDE's
  • why it is important to accept the metaphysical experiences of patients and family members near the time of death
  • myths surrounding the dying process

Lizzy Miles, MA, MSW, LSW is a hospice social worker and a passionate advocate for talking about end-of-life issues. She has presented her research and experiences with death and dying at national and international grief conferences. Lizzy brought the Death Café movement to the United States and has mentored dozens of other facilitators across the U.S with starting their own Death Café events.

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May 8, 2014

10 am Pacific/ 1 pm Eastern

"Beyond Hospice"

Deanna Cochran, RN, CHPN


Professionals Collective

In this interview with Hospice and Palliative Care Nurse Deanna Cochran we will explore some alternatives for end-of-life care that go beyond the services provided by the traditional hospice. Deanna will share her own experiences that led her to seek additional training in palliative care and as an end-of-life doula. You will learn:

  • the differences between palliative care and hospice
  • the advantages of palliative care for patients and families
  • what services an end-of-life doula can offer
  • about Deanna's online initiatve the End-of-Life Professionals Collective and how to get involved

Deanna Cochran is an RN and a Certified Hospice and Palliative Care Nurse. She has worked in end-of-life environments since 2000, which is when she completed her nursing training. She is also a trained mediator, certified celebrant, and a Reiki and Therapeutic Touch Practitioner.

Through her end-of-life work, Deanna developed a passion for palliative care and in 2006 she founded Quality of Life Care, LLC – with a mission to educate and serve families who were suffering from the effects of their illness or from the treatments for their illness. She has always believed that you do not have to be dying to receive comfort and and that Palliative care is appropriate whether you will recover or not. She is also very passionate about the days and hours leading to death and the tremendous support people need at this time.

Deanna has been practicing as an end of life doula since 2006 and created “Accompanying the Dying; a Practical Guide and Awareness Training” for laypeople who desire to serve the dying. She has been mentoring students in this program since 2010. In January 2014, she founded the End of Life Professionals Collective, a community where end of life practitioners can collaborate in caring for their patients as well as where consumers can find assistance. She has dedicated her life since her mother's death in 2005 to empowering people to live and die exactly as they wish in as much comfort, peace and choice as is possible.

Deanna's Affiliations: My Healing Place, Volunteer Co-facilitator; Texas New Mexico Hospice Organization; The American Holistic Nurse Association; Hospice and Palliative Nurse Association; End of Life Professionals Collective

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April 2014:

April 24, 2014

10 am Pacific/1 pm Eastern

"Afterlife Awareness"

Terri Daniel-

The Afterlife Awareness Conference

In this interview, ordained minister and hospice chaplain Terri Daniel will discuss her own unique experiences with death, dying and bereavement from a metaphysical perspective. Terri is also the founder of the Afterlife Awareness Conference and will share information about the speakers scheduled to present at the conference this year in June. You will learn:

  • Terri's thoughts on "radical mysticism" and how it pertains to death and dying
  • how her personal experience with grief led her to become involved with end-of-life care
  • about the Afterlife Awareness Conference and why you should attend
  • why death needs to come "out of the closet" in hospitals and ICU's

Terri Daniel is an ordained interfaith minister, clinical chaplain and intuitive counselor who assists dying and grieving individuals to discover a more spiritually spacious understanding of death and beyond. She is an in-demand teacher, speaker and workshop presenter for conferences and symposiums worldwide.

Terri's unique perspective on birth, death and the journey of the soul helps the dying and the bereaved find meaning and healing through meditative and ritual practices that open a conduit to other dimensions. Her unique form of "radical mysticism" incorporates elements of Buddhism, Shamanism, ancient Pagan practices, Gnostic Christianity and other spiritual traditions to break down limiting beliefs about forgiveness, judgment and negative experience. Terri replaces these beliefs with an empowering vision of a co-created universe where there are no victims or perpetrators, only souls seeking expansion and awareness.

After the death of her 16 year-old son in 2006, and the eloquent after-death communications she received from him, Terri immersed herself in metaphysical studies and meditation practices to help her fine-tune her intuitive abilities. At the same time, she became a hospice volunteer and trained as a transition guide for helping the dying cross over. At age 56 she went back to school to pursue degrees in theology and pastoral care, and began working in hospital and hospice chaplaincy.

In 2010 Terri founded the Afterlife Education Foundation and its annual conference, which features the world's leading researchers, counselors and educators in the metaphysics of death, dying and bereavement. In addition to writing, teaching and chaplaincy work, she recently launched a new service that provides end-of-life spiritual care to animals and their families that are facing life-threatening diagnoses or critical injuries Terri is the author of three books on death and the afterlife: A Swan in Heaven: Conversations Between Two Worlds (2008 ) Embracing Death: A New Look at Grief, Gratitude and God (2010) Turning the Corner on Grief Street: Loss and Trauma as a Journey to Awakening (2014) She resides in Portland, Oregon with her dog, Spootie. 

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April 10, 2014

10 am Pacific/1 pm Eastern

"Grief and Death in the

Natural World"

Cassandra Yonder -

Beyond Yonder Death Midwifery

In this interview with grief counselor, death midwife and home funeral guide Cassandra Yonder, we will discuss her experiences with death and grief as a homesteader who lives off the land and raises animals for food. Cassandra will describe her philosophy of the importance of "hands-on" involvement in after-death care as she openly shares stories from her life, from the first home funeral she participated in for a neighbor to her own personal losses. You will learn:

  • why meaning-making is important for healthy grieving
  • how stories are an important tool for healing our grief
  • why a "hands-on" approach to disposition after death is helpful
  • the application of "continuing bonds theory" in grief counseling

Cassandra Yonder earned a BA in gerontology and sociology along with a Master’s degree in Architecture. She also studied grief and bereavement at the University of Western Ontario’s thanatology department and became certified as an animal assisted therapist, hypnotherapist and lay horse trainer.

Recognizing the therapeutic potential of the homesteading lifestyle, Cassandra and her partner moved to Cape Breton, Nova Scotia in 2006 where she intended to seek work as a rural bereavement coordinator while establishing a retreat for grieving families. The unexpected death and resultant home funeral of a close friend and neighbour precipitated a deepening of her consciousness in the field of dying and deathcare, and as a result she became certified as a home funeral guide in 2009.

Cassandra currently maintains a private practice in death midwifery through which she offers education, home funeral guidance and bereavement support. She speaks publicly about various aspects of alternative deathcare and the potential value of community centered responses to end of life and post death care.

She has been the chair of the Victoria County Hospice Society, secretary of her local Community Health Board, a member of the Grief Nova Scotia working group and a board member of the National Home Funeral Alliance. She is also part of a core group to found a Canadian Community of Practice for Death Midwifery.

Cassandra lives with her partner, 3 children and livestock (including horses, goats, rabbits, chickens, pigs, ducks, cats and dogs) in the forested highlands of Cape Breton at North River, just off the Cabot Trail in Nova Scotia, Canada where they are developing a self sufficient homestead using timber framing and cordwood building techniques. In this lifestyle, Cassandra is truly “walking her talk” as she deals with life and death in the natural world on a daily basis.


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March 2014:

Colby Hitchcock-

holds a degree in Funeral Service Technology from Northwest Mississippi Community College. Certificate in Post-Mortem Reconstructive Surgery from Fountain National Academy of Professional Embalming Skills . He is a CANA (Cremation Association of North America) Certified Crematory Operator. Colby currently serves as the Care Teams and Properties Manager for Baue Funeral Home of St. Charles, MO.

Pam Gehrs-

became a licensed Funeral Director in 2000 and holds a Bachelor of Science Degree in Business Administration. She has been assisting families in Advanced Planning and Cemetery Development and Memorialization since 1994. Pam is currently employed at Baue Funeral Home in St. Charles, MO.

March 27, 2014

10 am Pacific/1 pm Eastern

"Everything You Need to Know

About Cremation"

Colby Hitchcock and Pam Gehrs-

Baue Funeral Home

St. Charles, MO

Tune in to this interview with two funeral home directors, Colby Hitchcock and Pam Gehrs, as we discuss the pros and cons of cremation as an alternative for after-death disposition. In this interview Colby and Pam will tell us:

  • the most common myths about cremation and what is actually true about this process
  • the statistics on cremation in the US as compared to other countries and cultures
  • what to expect if a loved one is cremated
  • the logistics of cremation (e.g. timing after death, legal aspects of cremation that you may need to know)

Whether you need to know about cremation in your personal or professional life, this interview will enlighten and inform you, and hopefully, dispel your fears about this increasingly common practice. Become aware of the facts about cremation so that you can advise your loved ones, patients and friends with accurate information and insights. 

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March 13, 2014

10 am Pacific/1 pm Eastern

"How to Transform Your Community

by Hosting a Death Cafe"

Betsy Trapasso MSW -

Death Cafe Los Angeles

Learn all about the rapidly growing, grassroots movement of the Death Cafe from Betsy Trapasso who has been hosting cafes in Los Angeles for the past year. Betsy will share stories from her own experiences with Death Cafe Los Angeles and fill us in on:

  • How and why she started Death Cafe LA
  • The benefits of hosting a Death Cafe
  • How to plan and promote a Death Cafe in your own community

Whether you are interested in starting or attending a Death Cafe or if you just work in the end-of-life arena, you will want to listen in to this informative interview! Join us on March 13, 2014.

Betsy Trapasso is an end of life guide, advocate and a founder of IMmortal Foundation, a nonprofit that educates about end of life issues through all forms of media. Betsy's calling is to bring peace to the dying and their families and her mission is to change how we view and do death. As an advocate, educator, speaker, writer and consultant, Betsy fulfills her passion to inform the world about important end of life issues.

Betsy is also the hostess of Death Cafe Los Angeles. She loves holding Death Cafes all over LA, offering a safe space for people to talk about death and life while enjoying the amazing food and cultures of the City of Angels.

Betsy has been featured in the Los Angeles Times, USA Today, and and she has been interviewed by journalists from Japan, Poland and Finland. She was a speaker at TEDxMalibu in 2013. Betsy holds a Master of Social Work from the University of Southern California.

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February 2014:

July 24, 2014

10 am Pacific/1 pm Eastern

"Bedside Singing and the End-of-Life"

Pashta MaryMoon

Don't miss this important interview with Dr. Stanley Terman as we discuss his work advocating the process of Natural Dying for patients with Advanced Dementia. You will learn the definition of "natural dying" and the advantages it provides for those terminal patients suffering with unbearable pain or with the challenges of end-stage dementia. In addition during this interview you will learn:

  • how to create a living will that will ensure your wishes are met when you reach the end-of-life
  • why an "ironclad strategy" for the end-of-life may be necessary
  • resources for caregivers and professionals who deal with Advanced Dementia
  • how to talk with family members about natural dying

Stanley A. Terman, PhD, MD, psychiatrist, is the CEO and medical director of Caring Advocates ( He holds these degrees: AB (Brown University); PhD (MIT); MD (University Iowa). Before he founded the non-profit organization Caring Advocates ( in 2000, he was on the faculty of University of California, Irvine.

The continuous thread of Dr. Terman's professional career is to empower people to make informed decisions so they can successfully meet challenges in their lives with more pleasure, less suffering, and improved relationships. For almost two decades, he has specialized on reducing the suffering of terminally ill patients and their loved ones, especially those faced with unending, unbearable pain, or the many challenges of Advanced Dementia. Dr. Terman authored four books that deal with end-of-life choices: The BEST WAY to Say Goodbye; Peaceful Transitions: Stories of Success and Compassion; and Peaceful Transitions: Plan Now, Die Later—Ironclad Strategy and the novel, Lethal Choice.

He created an advance care planning tool, My Way Cards / Natural Dying Living Will Cardsthat generates a clear and specific Living Will to overcome the challenges of Advanced Dementia as well as other terminal illnesses. The Natural Dying—Living Will informs others WHEN to stop interventions that only delay dying, increase suffering and prolong burdens. The intervention of Natural Dying works even for patients who have “No Plug to Pull.” Several videos explain this approach at (“Plan Now, Die Later-Peacefully”).

Dr. Terman and his research colleagues are seeking volunteers to discover effective ways to encourage people to complete Living Wills. For more information, go to: Two other surveys seek collaborators on the “Dementia Fear.” Dr. Terman’s professional articles have appeared in The Lancet, American Journal of Bioethics, Palliative Medicine, Caring for the Ages, Behavioral Sciences and the Law. His most recent article, published in the Hamline Law Review, “It Isn’t Easy Being Pink: Potential Problems with POLST Paradigm Forms,” is currently listed among the most frequently downloaded articles in the Elder Law Studies eJournal (

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"My Good Grief"

Cheryl Parker -

Certified Grief Recovery Specialist

Tune in to this inspiring interview with grief specialist Cheryl Parker as we discuss her history with grief, how to cope with the process of grief and how to support others who are grieving. In addition, Cheryl will talk about her family's experience with organ donation after her daughter's death. This interview will cover:

  • What you need to know about grief
  • How to help a grieving loved one
  • The most common myths about grief

Cheryl Parker is a loss and life coach. She has a Project Management background but after her 8 year old daughter Rachel died in 1998, while taking her own healing journey, she found a passion in helping others work though their grief process and tackle adversity. She was the National spokesperson for Organ donation in 1999 after honoring her daughters wishes to be an organ donor. This lead to several tv and radio appearances and she had several opportunities over the years to do public speaking events at hospitals, churches, schools, professional administration forums, business women's luncheons and retreats .She received her Adult Teaching Certificate in 2000 and Certified in Grief Recovery in 2006, followed by 6 years of coaching experience. Featured in multiple newspapers and magazines, she is dedicated to transforming the conversation around grief so that people are freed up to live a fulfilled life. She has facilitated one on one coaching and group workshops over the years to hundreds of people and she believes that Healing is Rediscovering the Beauty of Life.

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January 2014: 

: 2014 Academy Awards Nominee!!

"Prison Terminal: The Last Days of

Private Jack Hall"

Edgar Barens -

Documentary Filmmaker

Edgar Barens lived behind the bars at the Iowa State Penitentiary for 6 months as he filmed this remarkable documentary of the final months of a terminally ill prisoner, Jack Hall and the hospice volunteers, they themselves prisoners, who cared for him. Edgar himself had attended a 14-week hospice volunteer training before the beginning of this project in order to fully understand the needs of the terminally patient and the duties of a hospice volunteer.

In this interview you will learn about the process of creating this film and what motivated Edgar Barens to take on such a project. We will also discuss:

  • the aging prison population and the need for hospice care in prisons
  • the prison hospice model and how it differs from traditional hospices
  • the use of fellow prisoners as volunteer caregivers

Edgar Barens (Director) received his Bachelors Degree and Masters of Fine Arts in Cinema and Photography from Southern Illinois University. His body of work includes documentary films, experimental shorts, music videos and public service announcements, which have been screened at numerous film festivals, conferences, broadcast nationally and internationally, as well as distributed educationally.

Barens directs and produces documentary films that explore many issues at play in the American criminal justice system. Prior to Prison Terminal, Edgar's most significant documentary film was A Sentence of Their Own for which he garnered the prestigious CINE Golden Eagle and the National Council on Crime an Delinquency PASS (Prevention for a Safer Society) Award - the only national award recognizing filmmakers who focus on our criminal justice system in a thoughtful and considerate manner.

Barens' work has received funding from the Illinois Arts Council, the Open Society Institutes' Project on Death in America and the Center on Crime, Communities and Culture, the Independent Feature Project, the Jane Addams College of Social Work at the University of Illinois at Chicago, the International Documentary Association, with additional support from Working Films and the Blue Mountain Center.

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"Death: A Love Story"

with Michelle LeBrun

In this interview Michelle will be discussing her award-winning documentary"Death: A Love Story"which chronicles the illness and death of her late husband Mel. She will describe the process of making the movie, her experiences with the medical profession as her husband was dying, and also how the movie is currently being used to educate medical professionals about death and dying. You will learn about:

  • the healing journey at the end-of-life from the caregiver and patient perspective
  • how a spiritual approach to the dying process can be helpful
  • the importance of mindfulness training for medical professionals

Michelle Le Brun Bio: As a producer/director and educator, Michelle’s interests include media literacy, civic engagement, and empowering young and old alike to analyze media and produce inspiring films that have an impact on social issue conversations. Toward that end in 2002 Michelle founded HARKEN! Youth Media in East Los Angeles training underserved, gang-affiliated youth in all aspects of documentary filmmaking to nurture critical thinking, creativity, and leadership skills. Harken Productions continues to work with high school youth and adults at its downtown Providence, RI location. Michelle is also adjunct faculty in Lesley University’s Creative Arts in Learning Masters Degree Program as well as in the Communications and Film/ Media departments of the University of Rhode Island.

The national award-winning documentary Death: A Love Story, marked Ms. Le Brun’s debut as a filmmaker having directed, produced, written and photographed the film. It was nominated for the Grand Jury Prize at the 1999 Sundance Film Festival, won top awards at several other film festivals, and aired on national PBS and CBC Canada. An analysis of the film was featured in Sundancing (2000), by John Anderson, History in Documentaries (2005), by Alan Rosenthal (China edition), and Documentary Media (2009), by Broderick Fox. Death: A Love Story is currently used in classrooms in over 400 universities and colleges in the US and Canada and is available in the educational market at

Michelle’s company Harken Productions  ( works with organizations to help them achieve their mission by producing short, documentary style videos to help with marketing, fundraising, operational and training efforts.

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2013 EOLU Audio Files:

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Day 1 Interviews: November 11, 2013

Kick-off Interview

"It's Never Too Late for Your Dreams"

With Host Karen Wyatt MD and

Jeremy Bloom - Founder

Wish of a Lifetime

November 11, 2013 1:00 pm EST

"Aging Well: 100 Is the New 80"

With Lawrence George, MD

November 11, 2013 4:00 pm EST

Day 2 Interviews: November 12, 2013

" 7 Ingredients for a

Satisfying Retirement"

With Cathy Severson, MS

November 12, 2013 1:00 pm EST

"Estate Planning:

Are You Leaving Behind

Heartache or Happiness?"

With Lisa Powers, Esq.

November 12, 2013 4:00 pm EST

Listen or Download Here

"Death Makes Life Possible:

Transforming the End-of-Life"

With Marilyn Schlitz, PhD,

November 11, 2013 2:30 pm EST

"The Future of Hospice Care in the U.S."

With Don Schumacher, PsyD

November 11, 2013 5:30 pm

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"How to Launch an Encore Career"

With Laura Schlafly

November 12, 2013 2:30 pm EST

Day 3 Interviews: November 13, 2013

"Aging in Place: It Takes a Village"

With Vickie Epstein

November 13, 2013 1:00 pm EST

"Options for the Best Care

Possible at the End-of-Life"

With Ira Byock, MD

November 13, 2013 4:00 pm EST

"Aging With Dignity: Helping You Make Your Medical Wishes Known"

With Paul Malley

November 13, 2013 2:30 pm EST

Day 4 Interviews: November 14, 2013

"How to Tell Your Story

and Leave Your Legacy"

With Nanette Randall

November 14, 2013 1:00 pm EST

"Options After Death:

Home Funerals and Green Burials"

With Merilynne Rush, RN

November 14, 2013 4:00 pm EST

"Start With The End In Mind:

Conscious Dying"

With Tarron Estes

November 14, 2013 2:30 pm EST

"Making a Difference by Donating

to Medical Science"

With Kayla Hrabak

November 14, 2013 5:30 pm EST

Day 5 Interviews: November 15, 2013

"Choices and Illusions at the End-of-Life


With Eldon Taylor

November 15, 2013 1:00 pm EST

"What Really Matters: Living

Fully For All Your Days"

With Karen Wyatt MD

November 15, 2013 4:00 pm EST

"The Last Adventure of Life:

Facing Death With Courage"

With Rev. Maria Hoaglund

November 15, 2013 2:30 pm EST